So, I currently pay for a TS Server and some hosting via ISK though services hosted on the forums. Under the new EULA this would seem to be banned.

Post EULA is that still acceptable or not?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5663372#post5663372

You are the clueless one here. NOT ALL bankers are banned, and that means they have not RMTed. But yet hey had their wallet turned to 0 ISK. If the ISK they earned from banking with IWI is considered as RMT fund, then I can understand the banking profits off IWI could be in consideration for confiscation. But beside banking, bankers put in their personal ISK, which they earned through legit in game means, to bank with. This ISK is not earned from IWI, it's personal fund that bankers used to bank with, much like many playeres gambled with ISK they made through non EULA breaking in game means.

What happened is that, these bankers all had their ISK turned into zero. Also, bankers' alts, such as ratting toon or whatever, if they had wallet transaction history with the banking toon, got their wallet ISK turned to zero.

If they have RMTed, sure their accounts should be banned. But their accounts are alive, and even toons that were not involved with IWI got their ISK confiscated, ISK they made through ratting or incursion or WH or whatever.

I applied to be a banker two months ago, but I didn't get accepted. But according to how CCP has done it now, if I joined IWI as a banker back then, then ALL my ISK and assets I accumulated through nearly a decade of hame playing eve before IWI existed would have been confiscated, for having mere association with IWI for two months and never having done RMT myself.

There are people who became banker a few days ago, and they had all their ISK removed.

CCP is not even considering such cases, and automatically close support tickets and petitions from these guys without even lookiing into their case.

Now tell me, you seriously think all of the above is good job done from CCP?

Making example by punishing the innocent? You think that's good management?

This is a **** take for all those players that played iwi legit and now have lost all that isk might I add that it is also not legal what u have done alot of people will have bought plex abd played on iwi and u just removed that from them without notic I dont no where u are from but that is illegal in the uk all removal of items that have been paid for must be given notice and refunded back to the person who bought the item unless your game is stated as beta and that all items are subject to removal eve isnt a beta game and has no such thing stated in the eula so give player who didnt do jack all wrong there isk back

yes but they still require to give u a 30days notice period of a removal of item/items if money has been paid for them if the player has breached the eula and tos then they can be removed without notice but if a player hasent broken them then they cannot just simply remove it the day they announce a change in the eula they must give players time to remove there items from such sites or refund it back to the players account rember they are not just punishing the guys who did breach the eula they are punishing alot of eve players who had nothing to do with the rmt how is that a fair and legal punishment plenty of court cases where devolpers have done this and lost in court of law

ITT: Goons and that exe dude are salty as ****

I'll shut up

Which was perfectly acceptable in this case since your original statement is just as absurd.

"Are you 100% absolutely positive that {insert activity here} has NOT and NEVER will engage in RMT" is not something you can decide would only apply where it fits your narrative.

Only thing CCP can do to make gambling possible again within the new EULA is to have an in game dice, like WOW had. But if people start gambling on it, CCP could still get into trouble with the current funny simulation of the legal world we are living in now,

I never asekd for ISK back or gambling be allowed in EVE again. It will not happen. I just pointed out how shite CCP has handled it, but that doesn't mean I'm asking CCP to reverse its decision.

Sweetiepie, the deal's not good enough for me. Minimum 10b a day and I may consider. So either pay up or you will just have to put up with it

Actually let's not have any ISK transactions, because if we have ISK transaction record, and someone who was once a Goon at some point in his EVE life is found to be guilty, then the entire personal wallets of every Goons and my alliance, and its coaltions, and any alts of distant coaltion member's HS ice mining alt, could all get our wallet zeroed by mere association. I don't think you Mittens would be pleased if his wallet got zeroed and all alliance and corps disbanded because we have ISK transaction records.